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June 16, 2019 / By Nan
Question: Don't want to step on any toes, but I have a question for all who believe in the Trinity. God the Father, God the son, and the Holy Spirit. Right? What about God the son. He was born of a woman, so he was part of her all so. My question is......Does God the son also have another part of him, which is part of the woman, which makes it, four Gods in one? And if not, Why? Where at in the bible is the word Trinity? Where at does it say they are a Trinity? When Jesus said, "My Father and I are one", Why did he leave out the Holy Spirit? Doesn't that phrase just mean in union with one another, like a husband and wife being one--IN UNION? Why are there so many places in the bible where it speaks of one or the other as separate beings. If they are three in one, why are they not mentioned together at all times? And in John 1:1 couldn't that be a mistranslation? There are many mistranslations in the bible according to my concordance. Alot of the trinity belief just doesn't add up.Sorry
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Lorene Lorene | 8 days ago
John 1:1 is a mistranslation, there are other Bible translations that say something different: we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.” “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God? Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows? 1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57. Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense, Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3; Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? . Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?) John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.” 1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.
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Lorene Originally Answered: Trinity, three in one?
John 1:1 is a mistranslation, there are other Bible translations that say something different: we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.” “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God? Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows? 1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57. Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense, Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3; Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? . Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?) John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.” 1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

Katelin Katelin
"Trinity, three in one? " - yes 3 in 1. "God the Father, God the son, and the Holy Spirit. Right? " - yes right so far... "Does God the son also have another part of him, which is part of the woman, which makes it, four Gods in one? And if not, Why? Human biology yes - but you limit GOD by making GOD human. JESUS was human but NOT from biology with Mary, but by GOD (JESUS) choosing this path to enter the world. Mary was so holy that she could contain the essence of JESUS, even being human, but there was no human biology involved. "Where at in the bible is the word Trinity? Where at does it say they are a Trinity?" - As I am not educated, in this field - I'll guess this was concluded later after years of questions, and religious leaders asked GOD for help answering this question. Because separately they are all three mentioned doing important things with the same power. "When Jesus said, "My Father and I are one", Why did he leave out the Holy Spirit? Doesn't that phrase just mean in union with one another, like a husband and wife being one--IN UNION?" - you and your father are one means in accord with their THOUGHTS!!! "Why are there so many places in the bible where it speaks of one or the other as separate beings. If they are three in one, why are they not mentioned together at all times?" - You and your father are separate beings - but can be spoken together or separately as is needed to express my ideas to people I'm talking about. "There are many mistranslations in the bible according to my concordance. Alot of the trinity belief just doesn't add up.Sorry" - That's right, people over the years have changed the stories for good or bad, depending on the humans at the time. Either people were killed or saved by the directives of other people. Fed or died. Clothed or naked. Human free will enters into all equations of humans dealing fairly with each other and when dealing with GOD. Don't be sorry if things don't add up. Find out why! Keep people on their toes! Question why a 2000+ year old policy pertains to life now! That's why your here! to insure the message of GOD does not turn into a meaningless sound in the background - like elevator music, in peoples lives. Stay involved in your community!
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Hebe Hebe
First of all...Christianity requires us to have Faith. If you don't then just move along and forget the rest. The Gospel of John is the inspired word of God, written by a man in his own words with his own ability. But since it is inspired by the Holy Spirit it is accurate in its essence. As for there being 4 Gods...NO...Mary was human, not another God. Jesus, as you have seen in John 1 was the WORD of God. Later when John tells us the WORD became flesh, Jesus took his flesh from Mary, concieved by the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ was ALL God and also ALL Man, at the same time. This is a doctrine of the Catholic Church. Not half man/half God...not some part this and maybe a little of that. ALL God and also ALL Man To properly cover the theology of the Holy Trinity would take more space and time than we have here.
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Dottie Dottie
you're nicely suited - the Trinity as such isn't suggested interior the Bible. The doctrine of the Trinity comes from piecing at the same time distinctive data and achieving a end which looks to me (a minimum of) to be the two mandatory and logical. some are little issues - like the actuality that the Hebrew word used to intend "the Lord" is a plural noun consistently used in a novel experience. some are somewhat extra dramatic - Christ's fact in John 10:30 that "I and the father are one." finally, sure, this is argued the two way - however nearly all of orthodox Christianity is on the fringe of the Trinity.
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Catrina Catrina
Jesus is unique in that he always existed as a pure spirit, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit, but he took on a human body and soul when he came to earth as a man to save us. So, Jesus is both fully God and fully man. This is not a confused mixture. Jesus possesses a divine soul or essence, a human soul, and a human body, which is now in a glorified, heaven compatible state. It was Jesus who personally told us about his Father and about the Holy Spirit. The account of the conception of Jesus in Mary's womb clearly demonstrates the power of the Holy Spirir. The promised descent of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost was a major event in the life of the church, and the Holy Spirit provided the power and wisdom that the apostles needed to convert the world to Christ. Our knowledge of the Trinity is based on the teachings of Christ, the revelation of scripture, and the teachings of the apostles. Denying a fundamental dogma that's accepted by virtually every Christian denomination makes some people feel superior, but in the end, it only makes it harder for them to live their faith.
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Anne Anne
It's almost enough to make Ron Popiell get into the God business isn't it? I can see the info-mmercials now... "I'm not going to just give you the Father and the Son, but the Holy Ghost too! That's right, and if you promise to tell a friend, I'll throw in my new invention, The Wafer Extractor! That's right, you'll never go to communion again without a piece of your God to munch with your grape juice! Just throw in your favorite piece of "lamb", turn on the Extractor, and have fresh crispy Jesus wafers ready to serve at your next church function!" "Now come on, you just can't beat that folks! And You don't have to tithe 90% of your income. You don't have to tithe 80%, 70%, or even 50%! Not 30%, or 20%. I won't even ask you to tithe 15% of your income. Thats right folks; absolution can be yours for a mere 10% of your income, and you can make easy payments each and every week! Now, is that a deal or WHAT?" Was that a little over the top? I never can tell... -SD-
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Wright Wright
The god of the New Testament is the same old jealous, petty, capricious, mass-murdering psychopathic Abrahamic death-cult diety of desert monotheism that is described in the Old Testament... Yahweh... Jehovah... Allah... whatever. Christians seem to think that around 2,000 years ago, this diety developed some kind of Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), in which he manifested a hippie-like personality (Jesus... spent some time on earth... now can be eaten in the form of a cracker), and some Casper the Ghost-like character with pedophilic tendencies (suspected of having impregnated a 12 or 13 year-old virgin... and being venerated for it). The Moslems, however, do not share that belief; they see him as his same-old psychopathic self, essentially unchanged since his old-testament days... except that he seems to have updated his reward system about 1,500 years ago, when he started handing over virgins (in heaven) to be defiled by insane zealots, as a show of gratitude for them having carried out mass-murder and killing themselves in his name. (I think that's what happens to Catholic nuns, after they die. Where else would they find enough virgins?)
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Wright Originally Answered: Why am I the only Christian who seems to have a problem with the Trinity?
Hi Elizabeth my princess I miss you bad. What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity? The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. The Bible speaks of the Father as God (Phil. 1:2), the Jesus as God (Titus 2:13), and the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3-4). Are these just three different ways of looking at God, or simply ways of referring to three different roles that God plays? The answer must be no, because the Bible also indicates that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. For example, since the Father sent the Son into the world (John 3:16), He cannot be the same person as the Son. Likewise, after the Son returned to the Father (John 16:10), the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit into the world (John 14:26; Acts 2:33). Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be distinct from the Father and the Son. Each Person is fully God. If God is three Persons, does this mean that each Person is “one-third” of God? Does the Trinity mean that God is divided into three parts? The Trinity does not divide God into three parts. The Bible is clear that all three Persons are each one hundred percent God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all fully God. For example, it says of Christ that “in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9). We should not think of God as like a "pie" cut into three pieces, each piece representing a Person. This would make each Person less than fully God and thus not God at all. Rather, “the being of each Person is equal to the whole being of God.”[1] The divine essence is not something that is divided between the three persons, but is fully in all three persons without being divided into "parts." Awareness of the distinct role that each Person of the Trinity has in our salvation can especially serve to give us greater comfort and appreciation for God in our prayers, as well as helping us to be specific in directing our prayers. Nonetheless, while recognizing the distinct roles that each Person has, we should never think of their roles as so separate that the other Persons are not involved. Rather, everything that one Person is involved in, the other two are also involved in, one way or another. ( My New Year Wish To YOU Princess !!") If I could wish a wish for you, it would be for peace and happiness not only now, but for the whole year through! May you never feel lonely, because there are those who care. I wish for your thoughts to be positive ones, that you never quit, that you never give up, and that you continue to learn. I wish for the love, peace, and joy of New Year be yours always Happy New Year!!! May All Your Dreams Come True Elizabeth my princess in 2009 Best wishes Skycat……? xoxo

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